Disney and Star Wars

It's depressing to see how inactive it has been recently. I mean, everybody is pretty much primarily posting in the never ending thread now and there's not enough people here to make this place really booming. We need to find some way to bring more people here before this place just fades into nothingness...

I know for a fact that a lot of boards out there are thriving because of how many people are there. We just need to get back into the game and pull people here. However, where we obtain these people might matter, because we don't to end up pulling in douches like those at Selkath.

I understand that people are busy these days, but it doesn't seem like they're rarely at their computer anymore. I know most of you are still dicking around with your computer. I don't know how we …

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Happy New Year OT! We may be dying... BUT WE'RE STILL HERE! We had an... interesting year last year. Vice Admin Burkman is taking a long earned vacation and Uly is stepping into his position. Well... I'd have more to say but I've got other things to do atm... and oh yeah... to quote Callin... "GET A MIC YA BUM!"

~Scott

The Fabulous Posts : 7918 Join date : 2011-01-27 Age : 26

Wilbz wrote:: This worries me.

There we have it. Lock the thread. No other opinion is needed.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:00 pm

Branch wrote:

Wilbz wrote:: This worries me.

There we have it. Lock the thread. No other opinion is needed.

Love me like you've never loved me like you love.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:01 pm

Wilbz wrote:

Branch wrote:

Wilbz wrote:: This worries me.

There we have it. Lock the thread. No other opinion is needed.

Love me like you've never loved me like you love.

So you want me to perform cunnilingus on you.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:02 pm

Boba wrote:

Wilbz wrote:

Branch wrote:: There we have it. Lock the thread. No other opinion is needed.

Love me like you've never loved me like you love.

So you want me to perform cunnilingus on you.

I'z prefurz analingus

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Tue Oct 30, 2012 6:48 pm

Callin wrote:

Branch wrote:

Boba wrote:: You masturbate to heavy amounts of porn and go binge drinking?

That would be an epic degree. OMG!

I would have my masters

You can get it at a fishing school. It's a Master Baiter.

The Fabulous Posts : 7918 Join date : 2011-01-27 Age : 26

The Mortonator wrote:

Callin wrote:

Branch wrote:: That would be an epic degree.

I would have my masters

You can get it at a fishing school. It's a Master Baiter.

i c wut u did thar

BananaGod Posts : 6603 Join date : 2011-02-12 Age : 32

Well... There is one positive thing that comes out of this... Leia is not a Disney Princess...
Say whaaa?

The Fabulous Posts : 7918 Join date : 2011-01-27 Age : 26

Ban-Anad wrote:: Well... There is one positive thing that comes out of this... Leia is not a Disney Princess...

Did you watch Scott's video?

OT Master Posts : 436 Join date : 2011-04-25 Age : 41

They have to do The New Jedi ORder series. With teh Yuuzhan Vong war, the death of Anakin Solo. That series is the whole reason Jacen Solo turn to the dark side later becoming Darth Caedus. It'S the birth of Ben Skywalker. They HAVE to make that one.

AND they have to make Fate of the Jedi. OMG it's awesome, I can't put the books down. Ben Skywalker is a teenager in this one. And there's the whole Lost Tribe of the Sith and Abeloth.

Although DISNEY makes it sound a bit...dunno...kid-ish.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:00 pm

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series. With teh Yuuzhan Vong war, the death of Anakin Solo. That series is the whole reason Jacen Solo turn to the dark side later becoming Darth Caedus. It'S the birth of Ben Skywalker. They HAVE to make that one.

AND they have to make Fate of the Jedi. OMG it's awesome, I can't put the books down. Ben Skywalker is a teenager in this one. And there's the whole Lost Tribe of the Sith and Abeloth.

Although DISNEY makes it sound a bit...dunno...kid-ish.

Jacen's fall to the darkside had little to do with the Vong War... it was suggested that Vergere was responsible for Jacen's fall, but if you've read the books it's far from that. Jacen's fall was due to the visions he received when flow walking around Abeloth. In fact Vergere rather pushed Jacen into making his own decisions rather than aligning with a denomination of Force Users and that's one of the reasons he went on his... journey I guess you could say... after the Vong war to the Dark Nest series.

I might add that Jacen in fact was never a true Sith... he prevented the fall of the galaxy from civil war and saved his daughter. He could not give up the one thing that mattered to him... and that's why he was never a true Sith.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 12:41 am

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series.

Yes, let's skip the legendary writers who have worked on Star Wars like Timothy Zahn and go straight to the garbage written by infants. Good plan.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:17 am

The Mortonator wrote:

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series.

Yes, let's skip the legendary writers who have worked on Star Wars like Timothy Zhan and go straight to the garbage written by infants. Good plan.

Uh... fuck you? The majority of the NJO were quite good (there were a couple that felt drawn out)... and I would hardly call Timothy Zhan a 'legendary' writer. He wrote the Thrawn Trilogy... which quite frankly was sub par imo. I'm going to take a stab that you're one of those people that read all of the Imperial Remnant novels and never even touched the NJO books.

So yes... let's cut the crap... and move onto something more interesting like the Vong War.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:18 am

Scott wrote:: He could not give up the one thing that mattered to him... and that's why he was never a true Sith.

That sounds like it makes him a sith to me.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:21 am

Ulyaoth wrote:

Scott wrote:: He could not give up the one thing that mattered to him... and that's why he was never a true Sith.

That sounds like it makes him a sith to me.

Sith are taught to be free of restraint of attachment bro... nothing that can hold them back. That's a basic Sith trait.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:28 am

Scott wrote:

The Mortonator wrote:

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series.

Yes, let's skip the legendary writers who have worked on Star Wars like Timothy Zhan and go straight to the garbage written by infants. Good plan.

Uh... fuck you? The majority of the NJO were quite good (there were a couple that felt drawn out)... and I would hardly call Timothy Zhan a 'legendary' writer. He wrote the Thrawn Trilogy... which quite frankly was sub par imo. I'm going to take a stab that you're one of those people that read all of the Imperial Remnant novels and never even touched the NJO books.

So yes... let's cut the crap... and move onto something more interesting like the Vong War.

Totally worth the reaction.

But no seriously, I read them all and the number of times I facepalmed at something...

Meanwhile...

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:34 am

The Mortonator wrote:

Scott wrote:

The Mortonator wrote:

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series.

Yes, let's skip the legendary writers who have worked on Star Wars like Timothy Zhan and go straight to the garbage written by infants. Good plan.

Uh... fuck you? The majority of the NJO were quite good (there were a couple that felt drawn out)... and I would hardly call Timothy Zhan a 'legendary' writer. He wrote the Thrawn Trilogy... which quite frankly was sub par imo. I'm going to take a stab that you're one of those people that read all of the Imperial Remnant novels and never even touched the NJO books.

So yes... let's cut the crap... and move onto something more interesting like the Vong War.

Totally worth the reaction.

But no seriously, I read them all and the number of times I facepalmed at something...

Meanwhile...

That means.... what? I disagree... I liked a lot of the NJO more. He's over hyped and overrated.

*shrug*

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:19 am

Scott wrote:: Sith are taught to be free of restraint of attachment bro... nothing that can hold them back. That's a basic Sith trait.

Jedi are the ones who aren't allowed to love. Jacen had his daughter, anakin had his padme.

Their passions turned them into sith! *hiiiissssssss*

Jedi ain't sposed to have earthly attachments, they're like the avatar like that. Not dem sith... they love attachments... all the attachments.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:25 am

Scott wrote:

The Mortonator wrote:

Scott wrote:: Uh... fuck you? The majority of the NJO were quite good (there were a couple that felt drawn out)... and I would hardly call Timothy Zhan a 'legendary' writer. He wrote the Thrawn Trilogy... which quite frankly was sub par imo. I'm going to take a stab that you're one of those people that read all of the Imperial Remnant novels and never even touched the NJO books.

So yes... let's cut the crap... and move onto something more interesting like the Vong War.

Totally worth the reaction.

But no seriously, I read them all and the number of times I facepalmed at something...

Meanwhile...

That means.... what? I disagree... I liked a lot of the NJO more. He's over hyped and overrated.

*shrug*

If you would like a serious business post though:

Spoiler:

Warning, the above is what happens when you major in studying plots. I am seriously cutting myself off to be less wordy.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 2:41 am

Ulyaoth wrote:

Scott wrote:: Sith are taught to be free of restraint of attachment bro... nothing that can hold them back. That's a basic Sith trait.

Jedi are the ones who aren't allowed to love. Jacen had his daughter, anakin had his padme.

Their passions turned them into sith! *hiiiissssssss*

Jedi ain't sposed to have earthly attachments, they're like the avatar like that. Not dem sith... they love attachments... all the attachments.

Uh no... both Jedi and Sith preach against attachment. The difference is that Sith uphold emotional response where the Jedi caution against it.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:01 am

The Mortonator wrote:: It means how I personally fell. Honestly, for NJO I found the vacillating characterizations and assassinations of character to be far beyond what a series with multiple authors should be.
This is an opinionated statement...

Sure, a little wonkiness can be expected, but with some of my favorite characters like Tenel Ka getting the short end or aspects established long before NJO being ignored rather than either Ret-conned or explained left a lot to be wanted in terms of characterization.
Again... opinion. Define what these aspects are...

I suppose that in terms of having a big event it worked. Personally, I couldn't care less about big events. I don't hate them and works like Homestuck can use them gloriously, but all to often the fate of the universe is just window dressing for weaker overall characters. Sorry, but if I can't care about my hero I'm going to loose interest no matter what is at stake. And with the start of Jacen's highly uncharacteristic turn and sudden lose of interest in pets (this was thoroughly explained by the war with the Vong and his captivity), Luke's running around being more invincible than a black hole (I'm not making that up. It's in the book.)(I can't really comment on this part... I didn't have a problem with it... the circumstances made it appealing), and minor characters left and right being turned into stock models I have trouble seeing where I should love them. They were okay books, but general lack of attention to detail makes them a bit weaker than past novelists. (what lack of attention to detail? They were thoroughly detailed from what I remember)

Besides which, if we skip straight to the Vong War that leaves us with Legacy of the Force and Fate of the Jedi. Now, I'll be honest. I haven't read Fate of the Jedi. There was only so much I can put up with and Legacy of the Force managed to leap that in spades. Seriously, there has been so much good reviewers have said bad about Legacy of the Force I wish I could relate, but that would take all day. (I didn't find them bad... I found them... with less detail than past series... but not bad) I suppose the short version is that literally no one was in character. Not Boba, not Luke, not Jacen. (Boba was the only one out of character... Jacen was out of character because that's what the damn series was about.)

Now, for all the bad I could pull up in NJO it isn't Legacy of the Force. NJO is a pretty okay story which I'm harder on than I possibly should be because it follows so many really good stories. Having read those first I didn't so much approach NJO with the idea it would be bad, but that the characters have a certain way they should act. When I could recognize nothing about former main character I had read so much about, well NJO was a disappointment obviously. One that I did enjoy in places though. ( I read the Thrawn Trilogy, X-Wing, Young Jedi Knight, etc etc etc, before I read the NJO I feel the characters have evolved... I am not relating to what you are describing.)

Honestly, compared to how people complain about the prequels I don't see how it isn't fair for me to rift on NJO a bit. (Well... let's see... one is a MOVIE... and the other is a NOVEL. There is a huge difference in media type and how it's received. You don't have 'bad acting' in a book. You don't have a lot of the aspects a movie does to criticize.) The prequels were at least completely in character and can stand alone as good movies. Sure, there was Hayden Christian, but otherwise they told a story in a complete and well done fashion. (with poor acting and shiny effects) Whereas NJO fails on its execution by taking established characters and reworking them into a new framework instead of creating new characters. (And you would create new characters why? So you don't tarnish the personalities of the old ones? That's absurd... characters are meant to evolve. Reworking them into a new framework is what keeps the story interesting, continuing, and relatable.) In this context both are primarily being criticized in comparison to what came before. (Yes... and I found the Thrawn Trilogy a little boring compared to the NJO. I don't dislike the Prequels... I just think they could have been done with better actors)

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:15 am

Honestly Scott, if you didn't find Luke out of character in Legacy I don't think I could possibly explain how something as minor in comparison as Tenel Ka's lack of awkward vocabulary was out of character. Sure character evolve, but they don't do so overnight. I'm saying the STARTING point of characters like Jacen in NJO was inconstant, not the end point.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:55 am

The Mortonator wrote:: Honestly Scott, if you didn't find Luke out of character in Legacy I don't think I could possibly explain how something as minor in comparison as Tenel Ka's lack of awkward vocabulary was out of character. Sure character evolve, but they don't do so overnight. I'm saying the STARTING point of characters like Jacen in NJO was inconstant, not the end point.

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Are you shitting me? You go from the Hand of Thrawn... to NJO... which is what... 5... 6 years... more? So he went from being what... 10 to 16? Do you see the problem with calling it an inconsistency yet?

And no I didn't find Luke out of consistency... it's how I imagine him getting older. I'm sorry you can't see that.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:12 am

The Mortonator wrote:

DarthShadie wrote:: They have to do The New Jedi ORder series.

Yes, let's skip the legendary writers who have worked on Star Wars like Timothy Zahn and go straight to the garbage written by infants. Good plan.

THIS. I couldnt stand The New Jedi Order.

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Star wars legacy

Cade Skywalker bring him on.

Subject: Re: Disney and Star Wars Wed Oct 31, 2012 8:19 am

Scott wrote:

The Mortonator wrote:: Honestly Scott, if you didn't find Luke out of character in Legacy I don't think I could possibly explain how something as minor in comparison as Tenel Ka's lack of awkward vocabulary was out of character. Sure character evolve, but they don't do so overnight. I'm saying the STARTING point of characters like Jacen in NJO was inconstant, not the end point.

...

Are you shitting me? You go from the Hand of Thrawn... to NJO... which is what... 5... 6 years... more? So he went from being what... 10 to 16? Do you see the problem with calling it an inconsistency yet?

And no I didn't find Luke out of consistency... it's how I imagine him getting older. I'm sorry you can't see that.

I can't see it because his reaction to Ben, his uncertainty about the Force, his lack of emotions over Mara, and pretty much everything has been blasted by many, many critics and readers. -_-

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