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Saint Burkman wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

Saint Burkman wrote:

Well after watching the debate last night, I can honestly say that I would rather feel more comfortable with Rick Santorum in office. I like this guy. I'm also starting to like Romney more. But we still need to see the people on the democrat side.

Obama. No one is running against him.

Dude, get off his fucking dick. I'm a democrat and you don't see me praising him like he's a god. In fact, his mistakes only led this country further in debt.

*cough* andathirdwar

Saint Burkman wrote:

Well after watching the debate last night, I can honestly say that I would rather feel more comfortable with Rick Santorum in office. I like this guy. I'm also starting to like Romney more. But we still need to see the people on the democrat side.

There's a Communist party?

Besides, Obama is a liberal's dream. Nobody is running against him. Oh well, the Democrats aren't going to win next year anyways.

Meatlocker wrote:

Scott wrote:

Saint Burkman wrote:

Dude, get off his fucking dick. I'm a democrat and you don't see me praising him like he's a god. In fact, his mistakes only led this country further in debt.

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And that will create the internal implosion of Iraq. Their government will collapse due to corruption, Iran's influence and hand at play, Turkey launching an offensive against the Kurds...

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

*cough* endofthefirstone

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And that will create the internal implosion of Iraq. Their government will collapse due to corruption, Iran's influence and hand at play, Turkey launching an offensive against the Kurds...

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And I thought as Americans we believed in sovereignty of foreign nations.

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And I thought as Americans we should protect our investments and interests.

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

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And I thought as Americans we believed in sovereignty of foreign nations.

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And I thought as Americans we should protect our investments and interests.

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we have investments in Turkey? And did you just admit we invaded Iraq for oil?

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We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

*cough*

we have investments in Turkey? And did you just admit we invaded Iraq for oil?

*cough*

We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

*cough*

Yes.

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

*cough*

And I thought as Americans we should protect our investments and interests.

*cough*

we have investments in Turkey? And did you just admit we invaded Iraq for oil?

*cough*

We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

*cough*

We're making more money at war than not... so what's this about fixing the deficit?

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

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We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

*cough*

Yes.

*cough*

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

*cough*

we have investments in Turkey? And did you just admit we invaded Iraq for oil?

*cough*

We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

I won't get too far into this discussion, just mainly because I'm not from this guild, but I agree. What we did "built" was wasted buildings, e.g., there was a chicken factory that was the U.S. built using our money...and no one ever used it. Not to mention that we blindly gave all this money to these contractors who used it to benefit themselves.

The best we can do is just not hurt them anymore...that may very well mean leaving; though, Iran will surely have a 'strong' negative influence on the region. The possibilities are ambiguous.

And, the war was for oil, as well as many other distorted objectives.

When 911 happened, the White House immediately sent the Pentagon to investigate whether the terrorist group Al-Qeada (whom everyone knows so well) was linked in any way to Saddam Hussein.

At this moment, the C.I.A. either screwed up and gave the wrong information, or fed the country lies that: the weapons of mass destruction were located in Iraq...and then we bombed the crap out of Baghdad.

Once Saddam's regime disintegrated, the city was literally broken; Baghdad reflected the appearance of a third world country; though, it could of been fixed. But the reason why Iraq became so bad afterwords is simple: the White House 'loosely' planned the occupancy three months in advanced to a group of people who didn't know what they were doing, versus in WWII where the President and a team he erected planned their occupancy of Germany three years in advanced.

An unprecedented amount of people were without a home and many resorted to stealing -something we also could of fixed. Our troops were just standing around after taking down Saddam's regime, and yet, there were no orders for them to follow. Nothing for them to do.

Stealing was becoming quite a problem; yet, they had specific orders not to intervene with anything -even if they saw someone steal something right in front of their eyes. Many soldiers said they simply could of stopped it if given the order to.

With no Iraqi police force, and U.S. troops unable to act, the Iraqis were forced to use radical Islamic gangs in order to protect them. Naturally, many Iraqis at this point were experiencing unimaginable suffering -mental and physical- so many turned to radical Islam, which eventually led to this large conflict between Sunni and Shiites in the region...all killing each other over 'their' interpretation of the same resource.

While all of this was going on, I believe it added a trillion to U.S. deficit. And guess what? The White House decided to use emergency funds when invading Iraq just so the amount of money they spent wouldn't show up on the President's record.

The White House changed their reasons to invade Iraq three times over the next 8 years.

Guantanamo Bay became the most racist and one of the most abusive/feared prisons in the world...so many innocent people were kidnapped from their countries across the world, without a fair trial -and some didn't get any. At military outposts before being transferred to Guantanamo, these prisoners were so severely beaten, sexually abused, mentally traumatized, that some even died...there were even pictures of troops taking "funny" pictures of themselves doing this. The claim Washington could make doing this is "It's not happening on our soil, so they don't have the same rights."
...and Obama still hasn't closed this horrible place.

The media also went crazy, in attempt to scare the country that another terrorist threat was imminent only to gain ratings/views.

Most importantly, Iraq is still as broken as ever. If we want to protect Iraq, we need to start sending them relief, not soldiers. But we are also in a tight spot; leaving Iraq now will only make things worse.

It's like we threw a knife that punctured the country. Now we're just deciding if we should pull the knife out.

I'd also like to add on that we built 30 million dollars worth of unused or unneeded buildings. While contractors became rich because we literally just handed them the money for one use, but with know one to regulate it, they just used it for themselves.

*Comes into thread*

*Astounded*

*Leaves*

Meatlocker wrote:

Scott wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

*cough*

We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

*cough*

We're making more money at war than not... so what's this about fixing the deficit?

*cough*

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I'm not supporting war... if you understood my comment. If not... you might wanna GTFO...

I dont like gay bashers. I like his pro gun stance though.

Anyway. Ron Paul 2012 has the whole package. everything we want.

DarthNemis wrote:

I dont like gay bashers. I like his pro gun stance though.

Anyway. Ron Paul 2012 has the whole package. everything we want.

Good one Nemis, you're a lot funnier then you used to be!

DarthNemis wrote:

I dont like gay bashers. I like his pro gun stance though.

Anyway. Ron Paul 2012 has the whole package. everything we want.

Maybe because you don't like to be bashed...

Spoiler:

hey meat locker......


perhaps you should avoid racisms and sarcazm when yer serveritude craig willbourn is not responding. Not the prez.

pulpapple wrote:

Meatlocker wrote:

Absol wrote:

*cough*

We have investments in Iraq; we built that country from 2004-2011. We should make sure it is secure.

And no, we did not. I'm saying that Obama is pulling out way too early, when this is a critical time for Iraq. We need to protect it so it does not collapse.

*cough*

So you want to keep trying to "build it" wasting all the money that could be used to crunch the deficit and risking Americans lives?

I won't get too far into this discussion, just mainly because I'm not from this guild, but I agree. What we did "built" was wasted buildings, e.g., there was a chicken factory that was the U.S. built using our money...and no one ever used it. Not to mention that we blindly gave all this money to these contractors who used it to benefit themselves.

The best we can do is just not hurt them anymore...that may very well mean leaving; though, Iran will surely have a 'strong' negative influence on the region. The possibilities are ambiguous.

And, the war was for oil, as well as many other distorted objectives.

When 911 happened, the White House immediately sent the Pentagon to investigate whether the terrorist group Al-Qeada (whom everyone knows so well) was linked in any way to Saddam Hussein.

At this moment, the C.I.A. either screwed up and gave the wrong information, or fed the country lies that: the weapons of mass destruction were located in Iraq...and then we bombed the crap out of Baghdad.

Once Saddam's regime disintegrated, the city was literally broken; Baghdad reflected the appearance of a third world country; though, it could of been fixed. But the reason why Iraq became so bad afterwords is simple: the White House 'loosely' planned the occupancy three months in advanced to a group of people who didn't know what they were doing, versus in WWII where the President and a team he erected planned their occupancy of Germany three years in advanced.

An unprecedented amount of people were without a home and many resorted to stealing -something we also could of fixed. Our troops were just standing around after taking down Saddam's regime, and yet, there were no orders for them to follow. Nothing for them to do.

Stealing was becoming quite a problem; yet, they had specific orders not to intervene with anything -even if they saw someone steal something right in front of their eyes. Many soldiers said they simply could of stopped it if given the order to.

With no Iraqi police force, and U.S. troops unable to act, the Iraqis were forced to use radical Islamic gangs in order to protect them. Naturally, many Iraqis at this point were experiencing unimaginable suffering -mental and physical- so many turned to radical Islam, which eventually led to this large conflict between Sunni and Shiites in the region...all killing each other over 'their' interpretation of the same resource.

While all of this was going on, I believe it added a trillion to U.S. deficit. And guess what? The White House decided to use emergency funds when invading Iraq just so the amount of money they spent wouldn't show up on the President's record.

The White House changed their reasons to invade Iraq three times over the next 8 years.

Guantanamo Bay became the most racist and one of the most abusive/feared prisons in the world...so many innocent people were kidnapped from their countries across the world, without a fair trial -and some didn't get any. At military outposts before being transferred to Guantanamo, these prisoners were so severely beaten, sexually abused, mentally traumatized, that some even died...there were even pictures of troops taking "funny" pictures of themselves doing this. The claim Washington could make doing this is "It's not happening on our soil, so they don't have the same rights."
...and Obama still hasn't closed this horrible place.

The media also went crazy, in attempt to scare the country that another terrorist threat was imminent only to gain ratings/views.

Most importantly, Iraq is still as broken as ever. If we want to protect Iraq, we need to start sending them relief, not soldiers. But we are also in a tight spot; leaving Iraq now will only make things worse.

It's like we threw a knife that punctured the country. Now we're just deciding if we should pull the knife out.

OOOOHHHHH!!! I was wondering who chased away boxxy..... You have to have water to sound intelligent.