Pro Life or Pro Choice?

Garrus wrote:

I'm not going to assume the meaning of life. And Dinosaurs were not the first life on the planet.

Causa wrote:

Garrus wrote:

I'm not going to assume the meaning of life. And Dinosaurs were not the first life on the planet.

IT WUZ TEH PROTHEANZ OBVIOUZLYZ

Garrus wrote:

Causa wrote:

Garrus wrote:

I'm not going to assume the meaning of life. And Dinosaurs were not the first life on the planet.

IT WUZ TEH PROTHEANZ OBVIOUZLYZ

No it was Plant and Animal cells.

Pro Choice. It's better for the baby not to come into a world where it's unloved. As long as it's not developed, it's non sentient, not concious, has no heart beat or any of the above. I believe it is ok to abort the baby.

It can also be detrimental for the parents to have the baby which then make it very detrimental for the baby in it's life.

Causa wrote:

Soulself wrote:

i don't know how to respond to that, the trollface makes me think your just being sarcastic when you say religion dose not cause death.

religion is the number one reason people go to war and kill people.

He's just trying annoy me by getting technical. This is why I wub him.

<3

I was being technical... and I do agree that Religion causes war... to a point. People put far to much blame on religion and not on themselves.

Causa wrote:

Garrus wrote:

Causa wrote:

I'm not going to assume the meaning of life. And Dinosaurs were not the first life on the planet.

IT WUZ TEH PROTHEANZ OBVIOUZLYZ

No it was Plant and Animal cells.

AND DEN TEH ANIMAL CELLZ TURNDZ INTO BIG RAWR DINOSAURZ?!?@#$?%?$ OMGZ HOW I NO SEE DIS B4.

Scott wrote:

<3

I was being technical... and I do agree that Religion causes war... to a point. People put far to much blame on religion and not on themselves.

I just don't like when People kill each other. But yes, it is sometimes the people and not ideals of the religion.

Garrus wrote:

AND DEN TEH ANIMAL CELLZ TURNDZ INTO BIG RAWR DINOSAURZ?!?@#$?%?$ OMGZ HOW I NO SEE DIS B4.

Stop fucking with me!

I'm split on it. I would rather there be no abortions, but at the same time knowing the alternatives people go too makes the decision harder. What I'm against is someone getting an abortion if they are able too support the baby. If you can't deal with the consequences then don't play the game.

Always liked this one

Causa wrote:

Garrus wrote:

AND DEN TEH ANIMAL CELLZ TURNDZ INTO BIG RAWR DINOSAURZ?!?@#$?%?$ OMGZ HOW I NO SEE DIS B4.

Stop fucking with me!

Soulself wrote:

Always liked this one

Einstein was a jew. Also a few of the others were religious.

Soulself wrote:

Causa wrote:

Garrus wrote:

IT WUZ TEH PROTHEANZ OBVIOUZLYZ

No it was Plant and Animal cells.

Always liked this one

Abraham Lincoln and Ben Franklin were not Atheist.

Soulself wrote:

Always liked this one

Except it's incorrect.

Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were Deists (which I identify with) and the guy in the beard (forget his name) was not an Atheist and I'm pretty sure Abe Lincoln wasn't either. I don't know about Einstein but I don't think he was.

Soulself wrote:

Always liked this one

One of my favorite quotes by Ben Franklin:

"Behold the rain which descends from heaven upon our vineyards, there it enters the roots of the vines, to be changed into wine, a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy."

WHA!?

PJsnaks wrote:

Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were Deists (which I identify with) and the guy in the beard (forget his name) was not an Atheist and I'm pretty sure Abe Lincoln wasn't either. I don't know about Einstein but I don't think he was.

yeah i know.. but i figure if religious people are allowed to quote wrong things and call them facts then atheistic people can do the same.


but then again i am agnostic so maybe i should not be saying things on behalf of Atheists.

I think that this gives the best definitions of athiest and agnostic because they mean two different things.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/

It's a good read, I learned I was wrong from it lol.

PJsnaks wrote:

I think that this gives the best definitions of athiest and agnostic because they mean two different things.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/

It's a good read, I learned I was wrong from it lol.

Oh wow... that was a good read.

/approved

PJsnaks wrote:

I think that this gives the best definitions of athiest and agnostic because they mean two different things.

http://freethinker.co.uk/2009/09/25/8419/

It's a good read, I learned I was wrong from it lol.

I like that.

TheMortonator. wrote:

Scientifically speaking, an unborn baby is as much a person as one that is born.

Scientifically speaking, an unborn baby doesn't even begin to develop brain cells until at least 3 months into pregnancy. At that stage, it's not a person, it's a collection of replicating cells.

TheMortonator. wrote:

As far as religion being the number one killer of people. Hit the history books already. Thanks to ye old Soviets the number one murderous group of all time is Atheistic. Although a big round of applause should definitely go to Hitler who is the more popular mass murder despite being not as good. He did use icons to inspire his people even though in retrospect it is blatant that these were the toys and not the masters.

No one said that religion is the #1 killer of people, just that religion can cause people to kill other people. Religion is a way to get an otherwise good person to do bad things. The sooner we get rid of or marginalize religion, the better off society will be.

TheMortonator. wrote:

Brain cells aren't a marker of life...

Trying to move the goalposts, are we? If brain cells aren't a marker of life, then how is it not wrong for us to kill animals as opposed to a barely-developed fetus? By your logic, we shouldn't be eating meat, exterminating bugs, or a zillion other things involving the deaths of animals. If your argument is that an unborn child is a person *because* it has brain cells unlike, say, a dog or cat, then it still fails based on what I just told you in my previous post.

TheMortonator. wrote:

Okay, maybe no one said religion is the number one killer. My point still stands fairly well.

Your point had nothing to do with what you were addressing, by your own opinion, so it doesn't matter if it's true or not. Strawman arguments are no way to win a debate.