Pro Life or Pro Choice?

Matieu Shepard wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

Branch wrote:

I find it funny, that most liberals are ok for killing innocent unborn children, but fight for the lives of serial rapist and murderers. Pro Life.

Yeah but it's not exactly "killing innocent unborn children".

Shhh, let him live in his little world *Tucks Branch in and tells him a story about horrible liberals and epic conservatives. Turns light off* Good night little Texan...

Treat me like a kid? Original. Very original. You just think of that?

Branch wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

Branch wrote:

I find it funny, that most liberals are ok for killing innocent unborn children, but fight for the lives of serial rapist and murderers. Pro Life.

Yeah but it's not exactly "killing innocent unborn children".

Yeah it is. Have they killed, raped or robed anyone yet? lolno. They born yet? Nope. Are they children? Technically no, they are babies.

Okay, I had a counter argument all typed out but cba.

Branch wrote:

I find it funny, that most liberals are ok for killing innocent unborn children, but fight for the lives of serial rapist and murderers. Pro Life.

Branch, for the first time in a millennia, I agree with you.

Bobabounty wrote:

Branch wrote:

I find it funny, that most liberals are ok for killing innocent unborn children, but fight for the lives of serial rapist and murderers. Pro Life.

Branch, for the first time in a millennia, I agree with you.

Come now, there have been more times... like... that... one time... somewhere...

Vaseline wrote:

I'm just gonna say that, as a woman, I am for abortions.

Anyone else notice that the women are for abortions on this topic? I am thankful that I have the right to choose to have a baby or not because it is MY body.

I'm pro-life and I'm a woman....

LeetYourMakeup wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

I'm just gonna say that, as a woman, I am for abortions.

Anyone else notice that the women are for abortions on this topic? I am thankful that I have the right to choose to have a baby or not because it is MY body.

Exactly!

Branch wrote:

I find it funny, that most liberals are ok for killing innocent unborn children, but fight for the lives of serial rapist and murderers. Pro Life.

I find it funny how those pro choice liberal bastards will stand their defending freedom of choice and then immediately turn around and pass laws enforcing safety belts and illegal drug use.

WTF I thought u fuckers were pro choice?!?! and im making the choice to not wear my dam safety belt.

Hypocritical bastards.


(btw i dont support the non use of safety belts. I wear mine, its just an example)

I find it funny that when somebody can't win a debate about a simple subject like abortions, they have to switch to insulting the persons other views. The world isn't black and white, it's not liberals and conservatives. There are liberals who don't support abortions, and conservatives who do support it. So if you can't hold your own in an argument then you should just admit that your an ignorant bastard and not try and change the subject.

Well, I think we can all agree on one thing...

Chickens don't have armpits.

Matieu Shepard wrote:

The world isn't black and white

Mayyyne, you racist!

Matieu Shepard wrote:

I find it funny that when somebody can't win a debate about a simple subject like abortions, they have to switch to insulting the persons other views. The world isn't black and white, it's not liberals and conservatives. There are liberals who don't support abortions, and conservatives who do support it. So if you can't hold your own in an argument then you should just admit that your an ignorant bastard and not try and change the subject.

I'm black and white.

Matieu Shepard wrote:

I find it funny that when somebody can't win a debate about a simple subject like abortions, they have to switch to insulting the persons other views. The world isn't black and white, it's not liberals and conservatives. There are liberals who don't support abortions, and conservatives who do support it. So if you can't hold your own in an argument then you should just admit that your an ignorant bastard and not try and change the subject.

Matieu Shepard wrote:

I find it funny that when somebody can't win a debate about a simple subject like abortions, they have to switch to insulting the persons other views. The world isn't black and white, it's not liberals and conservatives. There are liberals who don't support abortions, and conservatives who do support it. So if you can't hold your own in an argument then you should just admit that your an ignorant bastard and not try and change the subject.

<3

Vaseline wrote:

LeetYourMakeup wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

I'm just gonna say that, as a woman, I am for abortions.

Anyone else notice that the women are for abortions on this topic? I am thankful that I have the right to choose to have a baby or not because it is MY body.

Exactly!

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

DarthNemis wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

LeetYourMakeup wrote:

Anyone else notice that the women are for abortions on this topic? I am thankful that I have the right to choose to have a baby or not because it is MY body.

Exactly!

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

What on earth?

Why the hell would I agree with you? Seriously...

You know it's illegal to "buy" a baby. It's illegal to pay a surrogate to carry a child for you and it's illegal to pay a woman to give you their baby.

Also, do you even realise what women go through to have a baby? Sorry to be blunt but a womens vagina is never the same again after having a child. Never mind the emotional impact it has on her.

Vaseline wrote:

DarthNemis wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

Exactly!

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

What on earth?

Why the hell would I agree with you? Seriously...

You know it's illegal to "buy" a baby. It's illegal to pay a surrogate to carry a child for you and it's illegal to pay a woman to give you their baby.

Also, do you even realise what women go through to have a baby? Sorry to be blunt but a womens vagina is never the same again after having a child. Never mind the emotional impact it has on her.

I think he means adopt. Cute little bastard isn't he.

Personally, that was tmi for me...

Branch wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

DarthNemis wrote:

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

What on earth?

Why the hell would I agree with you? Seriously...

You know it's illegal to "buy" a baby. It's illegal to pay a surrogate to carry a child for you and it's illegal to pay a woman to give you their baby.

Also, do you even realise what women go through to have a baby? Sorry to be blunt but a womens vagina is never the same again after having a child. Never mind the emotional impact it has on her.

I think he means adopt. Cute little bastard isn't he.

Personally, that was tmi for me...

Yeah, it's illegal to pay for adoption as well.

Zero Beat wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

Branch wrote:

I think he means adopt. Cute little bastard isn't he.

Personally, that was tmi for me...

Yeah, it's illegal to pay for adoption as well.

It is? What are things you have to go through to adopt a child?

Well, in my country you don't pay a fee to adopt a child.

DarthNemis wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

LeetYourMakeup wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

I'm just gonna say that, as a woman, I am for abortions.

Anyone else notice that the women are for abortions on this topic? I am thankful that I have the right to choose to have a baby or not because it is MY body.

Exactly!

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

Well let's see, where do I start...

1) "However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion." Right, if the woman WANTED the baby, she wouldn't get an abortion, that ruins the entire point of WANTING a child.

2) View my last post, this thread is made to discuss abortions, we're not going into why a woman got pregnant in the first place, so don't go changing the subject when you run out of ideas of why your right.

3) Don't assume somebody agrees with you, that's just ignorant of somebody elses opinions. When somebody seems clear to you it's usually not to another person.

4) If somebody doesn't want to have a child, you shouldn't start posting that money will change that. If people don't want to do something, then your just bribing them to go against their beliefs. That's like telling somebody who doesn't believe in slavery that if you pay them money, they should believe in slavery.

5) Don't start quoting the 9th amendment, there are quite a few people on these forums not in America, if your going to go quoting constitutions, then you should include those of other countries. Don't assume that everybody looks up to America and knows and follows their laws.

Matieu Shepard wrote:

DarthNemis wrote:

Vaseline wrote:

Exactly!

I do agree with Wade Vs Roe that women have a constitutional right under the 9th amendment to have an abortion. However i dont believe that it went far enough.
I think they also should have noted that the baby also has a right to life. They then should have noted that their is a conundrum of the two rights and that in most incases the women who were getting abortions were trying to prevent needing one in the first place by use of condoms ect. However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion. You cant give someone life than take it away. However, if the pregnancy is an accident then its the same as say for example i go into a comma and for some hypothetical reason unless a woman doesnt go through the exact same side effects as pregnancy I will die. She has a right to not have to do that just like someone has a right not to give away a kidney if they choose not to.

I think both sides need to acknowledge both the unborn child and women have both of these rights guaranteed to them under the 9th Amendment.

I think women should consider other options before getting an abortion.

But i think the real issue we should all be talking about is the "child safety laws" and the adoption filtering cycle.

People would easily pay a pregnant girl 30000 dollars (some cases you see much more money involved) for the child. And what girl doesnt want 30000 big ones? The cost easily covers pregnancy and some nice living cash.

However the counter arguement is that this shouldnt be allowed because then girls will simply get pregnant and have kids to make some cash. They also argue that bad families will adopt.

Ok my question to you girls is this. Dont you both agree with me that you have absolutely every right to your body correct? (I do believe that though I didnt think i needed to metnion it) and so will you also agree with me that someone should be aloud to pay you whatever amount of money they desire for you to go through pregnancy and to have the child?

I have heard both Pro Choice people and Pro Life people say that people shouldnt be aloud to "buy" babies as they call it.

Its not buying a child. Its paying for a women's pain and suffering aswell as medical costs.

Ok so vase and LeetYourMakeup do you both agree with me?

Well let's see, where do I start...

1) "However, if a woman got pregnant purposely and wanted a baby, she then doesnt have a right to get an abortion." Right, if the woman WANTED the baby, she wouldn't get an abortion, that ruins the entire point of WANTING a child.

2) View my last post, this thread is made to discuss abortions, we're not going into why a woman got pregnant in the first place, so don't go changing the subject when you run out of ideas of why your right.

3) Don't assume somebody agrees with you, that's just ignorant of somebody elses opinions. When somebody seems clear to you it's usually not to another person.

4) If somebody doesn't want to have a child, you shouldn't start posting that money will change that. If people don't want to do something, then your just bribing them to go against their beliefs. That's like telling somebody who doesn't believe in slavery that if you pay them money, they should believe in slavery.

5) Don't start quoting the 9th amendment, there are quite a few people on these forums not in America, if your going to go quoting constitutions, then you should include those of other countries. Don't assume that everybody looks up to America and knows and follows their laws.

Absolutely right.