Project Olympus Discussion

Phoenix looks military. I like it. Also, Leviathon and Nyx are kewl too.

Whoa whoa whoa.... whoa... when did we talk about Olympus being a ship? A single one at that? Granted... these are some bad ass ship designs... but... wtf? Also... Burk and I discussed this at the start... the mythologic names are saved for AI and operatives...

BTW My order of likes:

1. Nyx
2. Phoenix
3. Leviathan

PS: The Avatar's design looks like it was pawned off of the Kadesh from Homeworld...

Scott wrote:

Whoa whoa whoa.... whoa... when did we talk about Olympus being a ship? A single one at that? Granted... these are some bad ass ship designs... but... wtf?

BTW My order of likes:

1. Nyx
2. Phoenix
3. Leviathan

PS: The Avatar's design looks like it was pawned off of the Kadesh from Homeworld...

/hi5

Burkman wrote:

As Scott was telling me, the entire operation shouldn't be located in one spot. It has to be spread apart. Having a single base is just poor thinking. Multiple locations would be located on the ground, more of the training facilities, while the other things are in space and on ships.

Scott was telling me about a command ship and having multiple bases on the ground. I think this is a good idea. Rather than just sticking with one base.

Thus far:

Command Ship (mobile starship) - intel, CO of Olympus (I will be writing his bio later today, I had someone in mind, and Ban you need to talk to Burk), also houses master AI (Zeus I believe is what Burk wanted to call it) of the Olympus program that does all the logistics and planning of missions.

Training facility (on ground) - where operatives are trained and go for psychiatric evaluation and cybernetic maintenance, also where operatives are allowed to live when not on duty. Operatives can live off location, but only if location is approved by command.

R&D Facility (on ground) - Not much to explain here, this is where the research for cybernetics and operative weapons and tools are created.

Safehouses? If you can think of more speak up.

You guys are just hilarious...

It has been established.
The Pantheon will be the board of advisers to the CO of Olympus (that MacBain guy), who will wear a Titan codename. For now this will be Cronus.

Just the heads up. This guy is not the same guy in the Prometheus story arc, which happens (waaaay) before the 'current' stardate.

Ban-Anad wrote:

It has been established.
The Pantheon will be the board of advisers to the CO of Olympus (that MacBain guy), who will wear a Titan codename. For now this will be Cronus.

Just the heads up. This guy is not the same guy in the Prometheus story arc, which happens (waaaay) before the 'current' stardate.

The current CO was only a Lt. back then... tho he still worked for Project Olympus... you should incorporate him into your story if possible. :D

Someone bring me up to speed. I feel like Im missing one of our get togethers.

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

It has been established.
The Pantheon will be the board of advisers to the CO of Olympus (that MacBain guy), who will wear a Titan codename. For now this will be Cronus.

Just the heads up. This guy is not the same guy in the Prometheus story arc, which happens (waaaay) before the 'current' stardate.

The current CO was only a Lt. back then... tho he still worked for Project Olympus... you should incorporate him into your story if possible. :D

I was thinking the new CO (your guy) be one of the Pantheon advisers...

Ban-Anad wrote:

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

It has been established.
The Pantheon will be the board of advisers to the CO of Olympus (that MacBain guy), who will wear a Titan codename. For now this will be Cronus.

Just the heads up. This guy is not the same guy in the Prometheus story arc, which happens (waaaay) before the 'current' stardate.

The current CO was only a Lt. back then... tho he still worked for Project Olympus... you should incorporate him into your story if possible. :D

I was thinking the new CO (your guy) be one of the Pantheon advisers...

Wait... I thought the Pantheon advisers were part of a cybernetics program at one point? Could you explain to me exactly who makes up the Pantheon.

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

Scott wrote:

The current CO was only a Lt. back then... tho he still worked for Project Olympus... you should incorporate him into your story if possible. :D

I was thinking the new CO (your guy) be one of the Pantheon advisers...

Wait... I thought the Pantheon advisers were part of a cybernetics program at one point? Could you explain to me exactly who makes up the Pantheon.

The Pantheon is made up of 11 individuals, plus Cronus himself. They are pretty much the guys that run Olympus. They aren't part of the 'program'. Most of them are suits and over-paid pencil pushers. They function as advisers to the CO, Cronus. Think of them as the Board of Directors. They answer only to Cronus himself.
Each individual has a special advisory role to fill. For instance, MacBain, if you agree him on the Pantheon, will be the Logistics adviser. There's another in charge of funding. One for R&D, etc...

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

I like.
A couple notes however: A Star Liner cannot exceed Warp 8 as this is currently the 'optimal' (read 'stable') commercial speed. Military vessels of frigate, destroyer, cruiser, battle cruiser and battleship class can reach Warp 9 and push Warp 10, which is still very unstable and only with the help of an on-board AI (which some of them don't have, depending on priority).
Also- It's UNE United Nations of Earth, not USE. And TSA 'Space Marines' sounds... Warhammery... Try TSA Marine Corps.

Currently no... remember how old Ban is? There have been advances in the Higgs bubbles formed around starcraft. Especially towards the end of the Nexus Wars.

UNE... my bad... yeah I agree with the Space Marines comment... but Marine Corps sounds... well not very futuristic sci-fi.

I'm in charge of FTL-related lore...

The maximum speed currently achievable using Higgs Fields is Warp 10, which is only possible by wrapping the craft in five separate 'bubbles'. There have been advances, yes. Those advances made the Warp 9 speed possible, but perfecting the constant upkeep of five separate bubbles is still under development. Each bubble adds to the possibility that the whole thing collapses on itself due to the massive difference between the atomic substance on the outside of the last bubble and the inside of the first. Imagine trying to inflate five balloons each within the previous one.
The fact that Warp 10 is still experimental means that it is still only available to military-grade spacecraft. Commercial Star Liners and other civilian craft are only allowed speeds of up to Warp 8.5, and Liners in particular (due to their size) are only capable of Warp 8.
The bigger the ship, and, understandably, its' mass, the more it would take to make it FTL-capable. That's why 'Olympus' (being 13/18 kilometers long) is only capable of Warp 1.

I still need a final word on the design- Avatar or Leviathan?

Ban-Anad wrote:

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

Scott wrote:

The current CO was only a Lt. back then... tho he still worked for Project Olympus... you should incorporate him into your story if possible. :D

I was thinking the new CO (your guy) be one of the Pantheon advisers...

Wait... I thought the Pantheon advisers were part of a cybernetics program at one point? Could you explain to me exactly who makes up the Pantheon.

The Pantheon is made up of 11 individuals, plus Cronus himself. They are pretty much the guys that run Olympus. They aren't part of the 'program'. Most of them are suits and over-paid pencil pushers. They function as advisers to the CO, Cronus. Think of them as the Board of Directors. They answer only to Cronus himself.
Each individual has a special advisory role to fill. For instance, MacBain, if you agree him on the Pantheon, will be the Logistics adviser. There's another in charge of funding. One for R&D, etc...

Scott wrote:

Ban-Anad wrote:

I like.
A couple notes however: A Star Liner cannot exceed Warp 8 as this is currently the 'optimal' (read 'stable') commercial speed. Military vessels of frigate, destroyer, cruiser, battle cruiser and battleship class can reach Warp 9 and push Warp 10, which is still very unstable and only with the help of an on-board AI (which some of them don't have, depending on priority).
Also- It's UNE United Nations of Earth, not USE. And TSA 'Space Marines' sounds... Warhammery... Try TSA Marine Corps.

Currently no... remember how old Ban is? There have been advances in the Higgs bubbles formed around starcraft. Especially towards the end of the Nexus Wars.

UNE... my bad... yeah I agree with the Space Marines comment... but Marine Corps sounds... well not very futuristic sci-fi.

I'm in charge of FTL-related lore...

The maximum speed currently achievable using Higgs Fields is Warp 10, which is only possible by wrapping the craft in five separate 'bubbles'. There have been advances, yes. Those advances made the Warp 9 speed possible, but perfecting the constant upkeep of five separate bubbles is still under development. Each bubble adds to the possibility that the whole thing collapses on itself due to the massive difference between the atomic substance on the outside of the last bubble and the inside of the first. Imagine trying to inflate five balloons each within the previous one.
The fact that Warp 10 is still experimental means that it is still only available to military-grade spacecraft. Commercial Star Liners and other civilian craft are only allowed speeds of up to Warp 8.5, and Liners in particular (due to their size) are only capable of Warp 8.
The bigger the ship, and, understandably, its' mass, the more it would take to make it FTL-capable. That's why 'Olympus' (being 13/18 kilometers long) is only capable of Warp 1.

I still need a final word on the design- Avatar or Leviathan?

Uh... Nyx? I liked Nyx the most...

And why are you in charge of FTL lore?! Also mass within a Higgs bubble *read field* would be virtually massless compared to outside the bubble... in fact the only detectable mass would be from particles interacting with the Higgs field... and if you add more bubbles (still not sure how you'd do such a thing from INSIDE the enveloped craft tho this IS Sci Fiction)... well you aren't going to have as many particles interacting with the outermost bubble compared to the innermost one... I don't understand where your science is coming from? Mass wouldn't be a problem... creating multiple bubbles within each other would.

I am so not being easy today...

@ Scott: My point exactly... Creating more fields from within one-another is the tough part. But there is still technically a difference between the atomic substance within the innermost field and that outside the outer-most. Even if the mass of the object 'shrinks', it does not drop out of normal space (and into slip-space, like going through a gate), only enters a 'sub-space' state.
As I said- imagine inflating multiple balloons, each from within the previous. When you inflate the first, there's already a pressure difference between the inside of the baloon and the outside atmosphere. The second would have a pressure difference between the inside of the first balloon and the inside of the second balloon. And so-on and so-forth.
Replace air pressure with atomic substance (which is essentially mass).
The larger the mass of the object to travel, the bigger the field and the resulting distortion.

Ban-Anad wrote:

@ Scott: My point exactly... Creating more fields from within one-another is the tough part. But there is still technically a difference between the atomic substance within the innermost field and that outside the outer-most. Even if the mass of the object 'shrinks', it does not drop out of normal space (and into slip-space, like going through a gate), only enters a 'sub-space' state.
As I said- imagine inflating multiple balloons, each from within the previous. When you inflate the first, there's already a pressure difference between the inside of the baloon and the outside atmosphere. The second would have a pressure difference between the inside of the first balloon and the inside of the second balloon. And so-on and so-forth.
Replace air pressure with atomic substance (which is essentially mass).
The larger the mass of the object to travel, the bigger the field and the resulting distortion.

You don't create "pressure" with a higgs field...

ok ok I think I see where you're coming from... there's a critical flaw with this tho. There is no difference in sub-atomic/atomic substance within and out of the bubble. There IS a difference within the FIELD. You have to understand that the only thing that changes is the relativity of the inside of the bubble to the outside. The field doesn't FILL the bubble... it is only merely the bubble. Unless there's another sci fi explanation I'm missing here on how the bubbles are created.

Name it Baubo.

CollaWars wrote:

Name it Baubo.

Name what Baubo?

I'm making up fleet commanding orders and ranks right now...
Just felt like checking in...

I've been thinking of making some short(-ish) stories covering Ban's work before he was drafted into Olympus. He won't exactly be the protagonist in every one, but they'll all be centred around a special agency MI6-style...
I've just been having these ideas of deniable ops type stuff... Probably because I've been watching a bunch of Strike Back lately...

I looked over my character, and I want to edit his bio. If that's ok with you guys.

Bwanch wrote:

I looked over my character, and I want to edit his bio. If that's ok with you guys.

It's fine with me...

Well tomorrow... too tired atm.